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So that's best thing. |
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Dr. Richard Francis. |
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That's the they to take the word. |
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What is. |
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Hello. |
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Welcome back. |
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If you are. |
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My name's Sam Solomon. |
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It's my pleasure also to introduce to you today Professor |
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Elliott Carton. |
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He'll be taking a lot of this lecture. |
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So in the last two weeks, we've discussed the different |
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components of brains and brain function. |
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The purpose of this week in general is to help |
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you understand a little bit better to survey the variety |
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of techniques that are available now to study brains and |
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behaviour. |
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To set us up properly for the subsequent weeks, which |
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were on specific terms. |
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So the purpose of today is not to go into |
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in-depth any particular technique. |
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We just like to help you understand the panoply of |
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techniques that are available with the strengths and the limitations |
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of some of those techniques are and why one might |
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choose to employ them in particular circumstances to understand the |
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relationship between brains and behaviour. |
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This is now quite an old slide, or at least |
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most of it is. |
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I adapted it slightly on the x axis is the |
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timescale of which one might like to make a measurement |
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ranging from milliseconds through hours, days and even lifetimes. |
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On the y axis. |
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It's a spatial scale of which one might like to |
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make that measurement from the scale of a single snaps |
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of a single nerve. |
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So through two o columns of those whole brain areas |
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and perhaps even the whole brain, each of the little |
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things in the box are different types of techniques, most |
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of which will encounter some time today. |
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These include things that are, for example, called patch clamp |
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electrophysiology. |
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This is old school electrophysiology, incredibly powerful technique. |
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You put in a glass electrode, so its tip is |
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only 1000 or maybe 5000 millimetre wide. |
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You put that glass tip up against the membrane of |
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a single nerve cell in a slice usually, but sometimes |
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in a whole animal. |
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You suck that little membrane onto the end of the |
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pipette and then you break the seal from the glass |
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into the inside of the cell, what's called a giga |
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arm seal. |
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And that allows you to measure precisely the internal electrical |
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life of that. |
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So that's basically the smaller scale measurement techniques tend to |
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get through on the top. |
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Right, as we'll be discussing soon, is a kind of |
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knowledge you can gain from studying humans or animals with |
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lesions, maybe to large parts of the brain or to |
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even small parts of the brain, often formed by strokes |
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or other kinds of accidents. |
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And in between. |
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These are a range of different techniques that we'll be |
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encountering today, including electrophysiology, calcium imaging, optical imaging that Magneto |
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and Safflower Graham or the electroencephalogram MEG or EEG, but |
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also techniques that are not necessarily aimed at revealing the |
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functional activity of the brain, but the kind of connections |
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between different brain areas. |
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If we were to have this lecture back when the |
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slide was first made. |
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I think the slide was first made back in 1994 |
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because there had been some profusion of techniques, including MRI, |
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into the field. |
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These techniques have now even grown more stronger and more |
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varied in their ability to answer these kinds of questions. |
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Hopefully we'll give you a flavour of that today, so |
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I'll hand off now to the radio to take you |
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through the first component, which is largely to do with |
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how we try and measure brain function in human beings. |
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Hello, everybody. |
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Can you hear me? |
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Yeah. |
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Hi. |
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It's really nice to be here. |
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I'm Andrea. |
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I'm one. |
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This is a professor of experimental psychology, and I mostly |
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do research on human cells quite nicely to telling you |
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about some of the techniques that we use. |
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And we wanted to start a little bit with. |
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Well, the first thing that was available for us to |
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study the human brain. |
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Right? |
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And that was sort of lesions in patients. |
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And that's something that's very much like we call neuropsychology, |
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although neuropsychology implies all those things as well. |
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And you're going to be seeing this a lot through |
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your modules. |
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And so I'm not going to go into a lot |
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of detail about it, but it is fair to say |
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that sort of the groundbreaking studies of Paul Broca were |
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the ones that sort of get this field going in |
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many ways. |
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So Rocco had a patient that had some language production |
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issues, and when that patient, that patient died and then |
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they examined the brain, they saw that they had a |
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lesion in the left hemisphere, in the frontal charges, in |
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the frontal cortex. |
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And they could also see that that happened again with |
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a couple of patients. |
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So that was the first real sort of link between |
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a function behaviour and sort of something localised to a |
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certain part of the brain. |
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And that was really groundbreaking for for neuroscience and for |
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psychology. |
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And it is the technique that we still use up |
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to today. |
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We're going to we're going to talk a lot about |
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hair and burn care during the language recognition lectures. |
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And we also are going to talk about a fascia |
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and how we still use neuropsychology to study the brain |
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in humans. |
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So as I said, it's just really good in terms |
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of getting this still going and making sort of relationships |
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between structure and function in the brain. |
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And what we can do now is also say, okay, |
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well, we have these Asian to have this lesion. |
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Let's try to see how they perform different tasks. |
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And again, you begin to see this a lot. |
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A classic example, the studies of our friend Amelia with |
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patients, H.M. and. |
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So yeah, really groundbreaking as well. |
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That went to a lot of studies. |
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We learned a lot about memory from those and that |
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this technique obviously, you know, has advantages which are like |
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and how we can link brain, um, behaviour and potentially |
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identify regions that are necessary and lesions that never sort |
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of sort of constrained to certain regions of the brain |
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if you want. |
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We don't really know what's damage. |
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The damage will be different between patients. |
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So it's a little bit, it's a kind of like |
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what people call sometimes a nature experiment. |
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Well, someone had a listen. |
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Let's try to understand what happened. |
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And I think in terms of disadvantages was that it |
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was that the lesions are not selective and that also, |
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obviously, the brain has this this capacity of plasticity of |
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of change in potentially structure and function to compensate for |
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what's happening environments is what happened in its own physiology. |
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And so there are a lot of cases that actually |
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the brain compensates over time. |
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So we see this a lot in patients and you |
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will say the cases of aphasia were potentially at the |
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beginning after lesion. |
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A patient has like several sort of potential issues with |
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producing or understanding language. |
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Let's say that as time passes, many of them recover. |
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So not all of them. |
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And that's like a real interesting or like a big |
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area of research trying to understand why a patient will |
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not recover. |
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Many of them do. |
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And that has to do with how the brain can |
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compensate for that damage. |
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However, there are lots of things that you can't really |
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do. |
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You can't really study dynamics between brain regions because you |
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know that lesion is already damaged. |
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So, you know, that's the only thing that you know. |
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And and I think I think for me, the biggest |
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one is that, well, deletion is not selective. |
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So you wouldn't know what exactly is damage or to |
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what extent. |
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And therefore, it's very difficult to make sort of inferences |
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between the structure and the function. |
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We can do it by studying sort of large groups |
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of patients. |
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But for example, there is currently study in Queens at |
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UCL where they're trying to look at that Netflix of |
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yeah, so people would have patients are going to be |
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all the brain lesions and therefore sort of language production |
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and perception problems and they're trying to look at what |
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predicts recovery and they really need to recruit thousands of |
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patients to be able to do this properly. |
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So it is, it is quite hard. |
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Okay. |
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So I'm going to talk now about some other techniques |
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that we can use to actually measure brain function and |
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structure in healthy individuals and in a non-invasive way. |
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And the first one I'd like to talk to you |
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about is magnetic resonance imaging. |
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And I'm just going to show you a video that |
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explains this very well from one of the developers of |
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this technique. |
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If you take, let's say, a human being and put |
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him in one of these big, very homogeneous magnetic field |
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magnets, then there's a tendency of that magnetic field to |
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line up the magnetic moments of the nuclei, the spin |
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of the nuclei and the hydrogen in your body, which |
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is in your muscle and in your blood. |
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Now, put on a radio frequency pulse, say 60 megahertz |
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or something like that. |
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Then you can make this magnetisation of your hydrogen nuclei. |
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You can turn it 90 degrees away from the direction |
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of the magnetic field. |
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Your magnetic moment will process. |
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If you have coils around, pick up coils, they it |
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will induce a signal. |
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If I want to see where the signal is coming |
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from in your body, I put on another magnetic field |
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on top of the very homogeneous one that's called a |
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magnetic field gradient. |
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By that I mean it makes a feel stronger in |
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one place and weaker in another place. |
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What you do in order to actually get the image |
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that you want, the fan resolution that you need, that |
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you put on magnetic field gradients of different strengths, a |
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series of pulses. |
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That's why if you get an MRI machine, you're here. |
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Bom, bom, bom. |
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It's all these pulses that we're putting out with different |
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strengths of magnetic field, perhaps even different directions, because we |
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want to get a three dimensional picture of you. |
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You record all of these data and when you finish, |
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you can now use what's called Fourier transform. |
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It's a mathematical technique. |
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You can work back to how strong the signal was |
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in each of these voxels. |
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And so this is how the image is developed. |
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Okay. |
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So that was a very quick intro to. |
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Right. |
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So am I in the wrong one? |
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Okay, so MRI stands for magnetic resonance imaging, and we |
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usually use this really big magnets, scanners to to sort |
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of scan people to conduct this technique. |
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And functional MRI refers to the kind of specific scanning |
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that is used for measuring, you know, something that relates |
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to brain function. |
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And I what I'm going to expand as I'm going |
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to explain both of them. |
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And so how I. |
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It's just plain. |
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Old. |
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Okay. |
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Thank you for your input on my music selection. |
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And so in Ryan ephemera and material I'm going to |
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talk about a little bit later, it really changed the |
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game in terms of what we could do to study |
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the human brain. |
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And in the last 25 years that these techniques have |
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been around, we have gained a lot of understanding of |
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how many functions that we can only study in detail |
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in humans, such as potential language or some complex decision |
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making or, you know, metacognition and so on, how they |
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work and how how, how the brain represents or like |
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produces its functions. |
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And so how does an MRI what I mean to |
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me, it's absolutely amazing that we can look into the |
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people's brain and actually look into their function without even |
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putting anything inside. |
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We can just take pictures of their brains by measuring |
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how hydrogen atoms move, which is why I was trying |
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to say here. |
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So this is what happens. |
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You put the subject a the participant in a big |
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magnets. |
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The magnets and had a really, really strong magnetic field. |
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And to do that you need liquid helium and you |
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need to keep that constant all the time. |
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So the energy cost of doing this is quite high. |
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And that's why MRI is actually a really expensive technique. |
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And when you put a person in this big magnetic |
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field, as it was thought by all the sort of |
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elite hydrogen atoms were aligned in the same direction. |
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Right. |
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That's why you don't use trying to put them all |
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in the same direction. |
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So then when you sort of disturb them and when |
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a radio wave. |
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Right, they will sort of rotate. |
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When you turn that off, they're going to go back. |
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And when they go back, they're going to miss the |
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signal that you can think about sort of like a |
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kind of singing in a certain frequency. |
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You can see these electrons. |
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And so these hydrogen atoms are thinking in a special |
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frequency when they're going back to the alignment. |
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Right. |
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And that's why we're measuring now how how then can |
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we measure different parts of space if they're all aligned |
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in the same way? |
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That's where you introduce these gradients. |
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So the gradient is just changing the magnetic field slightly. |
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So in a way, you can think about these hydrogen |
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atoms sort of kind of moving and what this thing |
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that's going to be sent is going to be at |
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a different frequency. |
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You can think about it as thinking in a different |
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frequency. |
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So for example, if I wanted to know, you know, |
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how this lecture theatre was populated, but I couldn't see |
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it, I was in a different room. |
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I could just put microphones all around with different with |
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different frequencies and then just have a recording here. |
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Right. |
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So the guys at the very top are going to |
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have really low frequencies, and that's going to be a |
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great note here to very high frequencies. |
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So I'm going to go in the other room and |
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she's going to be recording the signals from all those |
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microphones when you're talking or whatever. |
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And by looking at the frequencies of those recordings, I'm |
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going to be able to exactly say who was sitting |
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where. |
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Because that's the link between frequency and space. |
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And that's why MRI dogs and that's why I like |
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to see pictures of your brain, which is amazing. |
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So if there's like a really strong signal at a |
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specific frequency, I know where it's coming from. |
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That part of of their image is going to look |
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quite bright. |
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And if it's a really low frequency, then it's going |
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to look like that. |
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And that's how we construct and it's really nice brain |
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pictures. |
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And so, yeah, pictures like this, for example. |
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Right. |
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So you can see and this is just a transformation |
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of light, really strong powers. |
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These things are like y by looking wide or depending |
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on what y your technique is, depending on the contrast. |
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And this the opposite for things that, you know, they |
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don't have that much signal. |
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Now this is just to get a structural image. |
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This just gives you a picture of the brain, right, |
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That doesn't link at all to brain function. |
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So what is it that allowed us to use functional |
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MRI to look at brain function? |
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And it is the fact that when a certain part |
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of the brain is active, there will be an increase |
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in blood flow to that part of the brain. |
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When there is an increase in blood flow, there's going |
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to be more haemoglobin, haemoglobin coming into that and that |
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has iron. |
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And it's in a sense the iron is ferromagnetic so |
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interferes with that magnetic field. |
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So by measuring how much interference there is with the |
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magnetic field, we can measure brain function. |
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But as you can see, the images and I'm sure |
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you hear one is the structural image to the kind |
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of images that we use for studying the structure of |
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the brain. |
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And this is a functional image. |
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It's just very low resolution because we actually want to |
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see. |
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How it changes with time. |
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So acquiring one of these images it takes for the |
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whole brain, it takes at least 5 minutes, whereas acquiring |
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this one could take 2 to 3 seconds depending on |
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what you're doing. |
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So we kind of compromising some of the spatial definition |
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to have like a better temporal resolution. |
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But we're still measuring blood flow, and blood flow is |
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quite slow. |
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That's why ephemeral is not a good technique for measuring |
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brain function. |
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So and you think it's no good technique for measuring |
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sort of Air Force temporal events is not it doesn't |
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have a great temporal resolution. |
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That being said, last week there was this really exciting |
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paper published where they had an MRI technique and so |
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milliseconds resolution now like very fast. |
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|
And it was done in animal models and it was |
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thought like in a single slice. |
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So it's not the whole brain, it's just the very |
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first step towards this technique. |
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But I think, you know, everybody in the field is |
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really exciting because it really looks like in a few |
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years, like maybe ten, 20, who knows? |
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We are going to have a technique that allows like |
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a really great temporal resolution potentially to study the human |
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brain as well. |
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And so when you get these images where you do |
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in the functional case and ephemera is that you take |
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many, many, many of them and then you compare them |
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across conditions. |
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So, for example, let's say here I will record like |
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lots of images do one of my goodness conditions of |
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my experiment, which could be it could be a memory |
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experiment, right? |
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So it could be like memorise these items. |
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And then I have a control condition where I just |
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tell people to, you know, look at them, don't memorise |
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them. |
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And then you can look at how like activity changes |
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across the whole brain. |
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Or like in here you can like look specifically into |
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a certain region, right? |
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So this region here is a few voxels, a voxel |
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instead of the minimal units and ephemera you can look |
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at as a three dimensional pixel. |
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And then we can average, for example, the activity through |
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that. |
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So if you look at this, the intensity in these |
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conditions is going to be different. |
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But this is something that you can't really tell, you |
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know, just by looking at. |
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And the difference is very, very small. |
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It's usually around, you know, between 1% to like 4% |
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or 10%. |
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Best case. |
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And and yeah, it's it's really small, but it is |
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very consistent. |
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So you can measure that and you can measure how |
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it changes. |
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And that's what we're doing here. |
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We have like these three measurements here, for example, from |
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that region in red, and then we compare them to |
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the measurements during the second condition and averages and see |
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this a difference in the amount of like bull's signal |
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in that area. |
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And by doing that across the whole grain, we can |
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come up with these statistical maps where we're showing where |
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in the brain there are significant differences between conditions. |
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Okay. |
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And so as I said, FEMA has brought lots of |
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advantages. |
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I think one of the really nice things is that |
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we can study the dynamics of the whole brain. |
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And, you know, that doesn't only apply to humans, but |
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it's also been used in animal models for this specific |
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purpose as well. |
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And after certain spends, we can understand how different parts |
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of the brain interact and how they form functional networks. |
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So we can like sort of do more complex analysis |
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of network dynamics and see how reaches interact under different |
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situations. |
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And you could do things that we couldn't do for |
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like with patients because, you know, patients essentially have some |
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sort of behavioural deficits. |
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So like there's things that they wouldn't be able to |
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do that we could do now because they're healthy participants. |
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And I'm very nicely we can think we can study |
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human brains, right? |
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We can study things that are so specific to humans |
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that would be difficult to study in all that and |
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which models. |
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So, for example, I study deafness and how the brain |
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of deaf individuals changes. |
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And you know, when the congenitally deaf and continues with |
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deafness in many cases results in a delay in language |
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acquisition, which then has a lot of impact on cognitive |
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functions as well. |
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So it's not that animals are not great for answering |
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those types of questions, so great for studying the effects |
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of sensory deprivation or lack of sensory experience, in this |
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case, a hearing and in the development of the brain |
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in plasticity. |
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And so it not so much to study what are |
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the impacts on cognitive processes. |
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And I think the best example of how we gain |
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from ephemera is we can do things like communicating with |
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patients in a coma. |
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And I really recommend you to look at these videos |
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from Agent Owen and his group where they are using |
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ephemera and what we know about from right. |
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They have been able to communicate with and with patients |
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that before we didn't have any insight into their entire |
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health status. |
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And so that has been a really amazing ground breaking |
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discovery. |
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So I'm not going to go into detail here right |
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now of time. |
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And there are tons of limitations, though. |
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And again, I think know, we have some understanding of |
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what the f MRI signal is. |
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So is this mix of like presynaptic activity and like |
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sort of cells firing as well. |
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And like, we don't know which ones it's coming from. |
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So you never really know what type of activity you |
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measure. |
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And you've just seen a difference in overall blood flow |
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in one region to the other. |
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So that is quite limiting. |
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And and again, the spatial resolution is great, you know, |
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like in comparison with other things. |
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But still, like we're looking at a bunch of cells |
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like and it's going to be quite hard to tell |
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what individual cells or small networks of self are actually |
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doing. |
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And and again, it's like this really big magnets. |
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So people have to stay, you know, sort of still |
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they can move around and that just gives limitations as |
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well. |
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I think, as some said, there's been a lot of |
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advances in these techniques and now we have MRI for |
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humans where we can measure layer specific activity. |
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So different layers of the and, you know, the cerebral |
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cortex. |
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But still, you know, that's still a lot of cells |
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and not specific. |
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Now, before we pass into other techniques, I wanted to |
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talk a little bit about this technique called functional, and |
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yet infrared spectroscopy, which works a little bit like ephemera |
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in sense that it measures changes in blood oxygenation. |
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So you have different sources of light that are attached |
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to the skull, and then you have others that you |
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use for detecting them. |
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And again, if there's a change in blood flow because |
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of haemoglobin, that will that will affect how the light |
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is reflected. |
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So you can measure changes as well. |
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Now, the spatial resolution of this technique is way worse |
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than if it were high, right? |
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Because you just only have a few seconds. |
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So why am I talking about it? |
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What would be the advantage of having this technique? |
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Why do you think? |
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Any ideas? |
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Yeah. |
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Yeah. |
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So exciting. |
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So one of the advantages that you don't need is |
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a big piece of equipment and is way more mobile. |
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Yeah. |
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People. |
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But you were always trying to. |
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Are you? |
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So hospital? |
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Yeah, exactly. |
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They don't have to be like in a specific lab |
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as well, although many cases are. |
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That is exactly that is one of the advantages. |
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So you're sacrificing some spatial resolution to actually be able |
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to do things like, you know, study people moving around |
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or like study children that are not going to be |
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staying very still in an MRI scanner. |
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And I think these are the kind of decisions that |
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we as scientists need to make, as we want to |
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learn about something, we're going to discover something about specific |
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behaviour, about the brain. |
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What's what is the best approach for doing this, given |
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the options that I have? |
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So in cases where you want to study brain function |
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in children, for example, or for example here where you |
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want to sort of like study people interacting and moving |
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around the environment, then obviously it's is going to be |
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a better technique that if I'm right. |
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Um, okay, so there are other techniques that are kind |
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of the opposite of around some that they have great |
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temporal resolution but not so good spatial resolution. |
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And those are magnetic photography and electroencephalography and energy and |
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energy. |
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So EEG have been around for a, for ages and |
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that was kind of the main technique that was used |
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to study the human brain in sort of healthy individuals |
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before any CnF MRI arrive other than just behavioural studies, |
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of course. |
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And so how do they what that means? |
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Just yeah, Okay. |
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So if you have a group of neurones, let's say |
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a line like it will be the case in the |
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cortex, they will have like went in different conditions but |
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actually they will have these currents moving in one direction. |
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Right. |
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And that is what generates EEG signal. |
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That's like the actual electrical activity. |
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And at the same time there will be a magnetic |
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field form surround that current that has gone in one |
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direction. |
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And that's why you can detect with energy. |
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And I think where you can see the main difference |
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in this really retro slide that I call it, because |
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it just happens quite clearly is that if you have |
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this current here, like in the case of ETI, it |
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doesn't go like and in sort of predictable way into |
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the skull because there is like, you know, sort of |
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bones and other tissues and liquid and so on, it |
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kind of deteriorates in a way that is quite difficult |
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to understand where it's coming from. |
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So you can still measure it here, but it's hard |
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to say where it's coming from. |
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And that's why EEG has a pretty bad spatial resolution |
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for energy. |
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This is much better because it is somehow more predictable |
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but still difficult to understand where exactly in the brain |
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this these signals are generated from. |
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And there's been a lot of work in trying to |
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do that. |
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And there have been some advantages based like kind of |
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I mean, when you talk to people that try to |
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understand this and try to sort of generate models of |
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where signals are coming from an EEG, and they basically |
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say this is an impossible problem to solve. |
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Like, you know, we can have like a really good |
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like closed solution as possible, but there's always going to |
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be a few different options. |
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So you're going to have to make decisions in terms |
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of how that now vanishes. |
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There's that that because I mentioned electrical activity, basically, you |
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know, this is direct recording of electrical activity, of neurones |
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firing or the magnetic field is generated and the temporal |
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|
resolution is excellent. |
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|
So again, you might want to try to understand what |
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experiments you want to do and whether, you know, this |
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technique is the best. |
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One of these techniques is by a technique that MRI, |
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for example. |
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And so I think I just want to show you |
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again, you can see there's a real difference in set |
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up here as well. |
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So energy, again, has like this really big machine, huge |
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magnetic field. |
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There has to be sort of maintain you could helium. |
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So again, quite expensive, but it now has to stay |
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really, really still whereas EEG is quite portable. |
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You know you can have a cap it's way cheaper |
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as well. |
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So trust me, you took my meds, you were like |
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the v0y is the best thing that I could do. |
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And then you have limitations of what your budget is |
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as well. |
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So, you know, that comes into it as well. |
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And so sometimes you might want to use one or |
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the other. |
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And I kind of did this sort of comparison here |
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to show you what are some of those things that |
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you will have to take into account. |
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So they both have excellent temporary solution, but similarly, they |
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both have problematic spatial resolution, although as I say, energy |
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is way better, right? |
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However, it is way more expensive and participants have to |
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stay very, very still. |
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I would say that applies to each year to some |
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extent as well, but potentially less and the sense. |
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US. |
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I'm in this big machine and that sort of how |
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the people haven't thought. |
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So you can't really move around. |
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So you need this special lab as well. |
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Whereas EEG is way more but more mobile and that |
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spatial resolution is was. |
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And I think it's also is good to take into |
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account that the signals come from different places as well. |
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So I'm not going to go into that. |
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But there are differences in where they're generated as well. |
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And and I think what is really nice as well |
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is that right now here at UCL in Queen Square, |
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in collaboration with all the labs in the UK, there |
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are developments to do with some portable e.g. such as |
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|
have like a few sensors that potentially measure brain activity |
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|
in a specific part of the brain so that people |
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can be more mobile and potentially have this much better |
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temporal resolution, so much better spatial resolution with this really |
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good temporal resolution as well. |
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|
And so I think this is the main so summary |
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of things that you can use for measuring brain activity |
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in humans. |
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|
I would really recommend you to watch all of these |
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|
videos, professors from our department talk more about these techniques. |
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|
And I think more once there's this is not an |
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|
extensive coverage of all the techniques that you can use |
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|
to study brain behaviour is more just to give you |
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|
a flavour of why the possibilities are and what are |
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|
some of the considerations that you have to take into |
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|
account when choosing one of those techniques? |
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So I'm going to pass to some now. |
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So it's going to be nice. |
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|
So the structure of this session is a little bit |
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maybe obscure for you. |
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Just to make clear why Bailey is talking about some |
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things that I'm talking about. |
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Other things is a video works on humans, particularly if |
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humans. |
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But I was always it's not quite always exclusively. |
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I grew up as a scientist working on primates, non-human |
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primates. |
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Both macaque monkeys and marmoset monkeys. |
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And I then moved when I moved to UCLA. |
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|
One of the reasons I moved here is that you |
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|
is basically the world centre of focus. |
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|
But for trying to understand the massive small world they |
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|
introduced in the last week. |
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|
Writing about half of France €70 million. |
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|
So the question I would like to pursue is what |
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I want you to think about. |
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Why would I choose to study animals? |
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And if I'm studying animals, including mine, which seems to |
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be so different from. |
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Why that I'm in the experimental psychology department. |
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Not only can I keep ahead of the problem. |
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So I'd like to then explain to you why I |
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find this such a beautiful experimental technique. |
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It's really exploded over the last ten years or so. |
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I'm going to introduce you to some of those techniques |
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that are really appropriate for the last ten years, and |
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we will be going into those in more detail. |
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We've actually. |
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But basically the reason we use animals or the reason |
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we turned out in some kind to understand why we |
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make based from them. |
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By that I mean that we can and. |
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|
Make small holes in their brain and introduce devices that |
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we can then use to measure cellular function in those |
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apple. |
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We can never be able to cover. |
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Study. |
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Study. |
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So. |
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But why do my people wear what I love about |
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Merhi? |
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|
Even in the best case scenario, one includes something like |
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$100,000. |
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But we can look at the active. |
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You need to be in the range and find out |
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how that could be. |
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That single macro might relate to cognitive functions. |
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|
If the animals, the kinds of things that do have |
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probably going to be very. |
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For example, we're in the very early parts of the |
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program. |
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People that critics are similarly enamoured with. |
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That makes me wonder. |
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I mean. |
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And I think we can learn a lot about how |
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we see or hear, or at least the signals that |
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come from that is or is at the centre of |
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the brain. |
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|
It's less clear how much we can learn about cognitive |
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structure thought, for example, by studying animals. |
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So it is when meant when we're measuring in invasively |
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would not be very limited circumstances that if we have |
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time we'll get back to at the end of this |
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|
lecture able to make these recordings from humans and he's |
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already introduced electroencephalogram or EEG. |
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|
That's a scalp based measurement, something that's non-invasive. |
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|
All the other things here, invasive measures, we might measure |
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|
the electrocardiogram, this liquid surface dura between the scalp and |
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the brain measuring almost directly neurones line underneath the electrodes. |
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Or we could use a little invasive, like a little |
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piece of silicon. |
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Let it be inserted into the brain first. |
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Slowly. |
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And located a particular point in the brain. |
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These have different spatial scales of measurement. |
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Electrocardiogram from each of the electrodes from the surface of |
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the brain, intermediate between B, g, and something else. |
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So maybe it measures that mm accumulated the brain issue. |
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The local feel and the electric car they find at |
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|
the end of one of the electrons moving about the |
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activity of about maybe half of their brain tissue. |
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|
And then if your electrodes, these little wires on fit |
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have been made well enough, you can actually start to |
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see the. |
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|
Speaking to people there for 2022 that you that in |
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the next slide we call those things spikes. |
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So this might be the signal that you would you |
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would acquire from one of the white actor to. |
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And the top. |
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This is 3 to 3 traces of the same trace. |
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On the top is what we would estimate as the |
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local fuel potential. |
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That's the sum that at the end of the start |
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to activity between the records and the ground, my whole |
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area. |
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And you can see that normally it's a local film |
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that was varying fairly slowly as the red line traces |
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out some of the slow fluctuations. |
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It's traced maybe a second or 3 seconds long. |
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And you can see that it is dominated by these |
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two things that are going. |
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But it would be very gratifying to deal with these |
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fluctuations if we then are able to look at those |
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little rapid events and those are indicated by the red |
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dots here. |
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We will see that they are the extracellular signal of |
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the action that we discussed in the last lecture. |
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How next? |
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Looks like from outside the city mirror. |
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There's not quite. |
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Now because his electrode is still quite large and there's |
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many cells around the end of those action potentials will |
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come from one another. |
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It doesn't really look. |
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Really? |
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Okay. |
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This better here. |
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Okay, I'll do that. |
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Thank you. |
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So the point to hear the difference down here, sir. |
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Thank you for that. |
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Each of each of those made. |
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It is like five or ten nerve cells around the |
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tip of the electrode. |
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Each of them are producing action potentials occasionally. |
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Often you cannot distinguish between the shapes of the action |
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potentials. |
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Just find your own one on your own. |
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Two on your own. |
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Three on your own. |
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For. |
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So we can combine these action potentials and say, well, |
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they're coming from single nerve cells. |
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It's just a few of them. |
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Five or ten of those may be in the local |
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area. |
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And therefore, we would call this activity the multi-unit activity. |
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So there's multiple units. |
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And by the way, you will come across this word |
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unit quite frequently in this course. |
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That just means a nerve cell in the brain recorded |
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in this way. |
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But sometimes if the electorate really is really nice and |
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it's really close to the so some of her neurones |
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in the brain tissue, you see a reproducible waveform. |
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Looks the same every time you identify in the recording |
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and that we would call single unit activity the activity |
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of a single nerve cell, the same nerve cell on |
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each turn, so able to record with this piece of |
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wire or multiple pieces of wire. |
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The activity of these nerve cells in the whole living |
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brain, in animals that are awake, behaving, even moving around |
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all environments. |
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So we can. |
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I think that this technique, which has been around now |
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for several decades, try to recall the activity of nerve |
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cells in the brain. |
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Oops. |
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This video shows you a video from the laboratory of |
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Torsten Wiesel and David Hubel trained maybe 50 years ago. |
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They won the Nobel Prize for these recordings. |
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These videos are hard to find, so I'd like to |
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show it here. |
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You're going to hear you can actually play those phrases |
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I showed you through an audio speaker and you can |
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actually listen to the action potentials that are being fired |
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by neurone. |
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In this case, they're recording from the visual cortex of |
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a cat. |
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And they're able to work out what this neurone is |
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saying by presenting different visual stimuli. |
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And you'll be able to see that during the course |
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of this video. |
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Well, you can hear the. |
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As I continue to continue to find. |
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What they're doing is they're going to the frontier now |
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where it's going to have to be a little crazy |
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for these things to be generated. |
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Reporter But this is a receptive field. |
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Getting into that. |
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And this particular unit is selected for the director most |
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of the time and. |
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Academic Congressional. |
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Important political orientation of the. |
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So that video just shows you you can use this |
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technique to see that these nerve cells in the visual |
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cortex are selective with the orientation, the motion direction of |
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of a visual stimulus. |
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And that's why they won the Nobel Prize. |
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By using this technique, you would not have been able |
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to determine that if you looked at the MRI signal, |
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which is something over hundreds of thousands of nerve cells. |
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You have to look at individual nerve cells to be |
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able to work that out. |
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Oops. |
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So the ultimate goal of all this new activity is |
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to control behaviour. |
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And I said that there were some limited circumstances in |
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which we could make these measurements in humans, including people, |
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for example, who are suffering from epilepsy, where we need |
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to measure from the brain to work out whereabouts the |
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surgical intervention could take place. |
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It also includes from people who in this case are |
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suffering from paraplegia, automatically paralysis. |
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Where the hope is that we recording the activity of |
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ourselves. |
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Cells will be able to help them regain function of |
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a robotic limb. |
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You have to effectively take what their brain, which is |
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still intact, is sending the signals that are sending and |
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use that to control something that we can then help |
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them move around the world. |
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In this particular case, these devices, which are often called |
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utile rays, which we have used in animals, I've never |
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used them in humans. |
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They were developed from being used in humans, have been |
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implanted in little part of the brain for the motor |
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cortex, which is important in generating movements. |
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And we'll get that in about two weeks time. |
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I just wanted to show you this video briefly because |
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it's incredibly evocative, like the Parkinson's video we watched the |
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other week and say to you, when we know how |
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we can interpret the signals and nerve cells, how powerful |
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that can be. |
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In this paper to people with Tetra and as two |
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people who were unable to move their arms or legs |
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in any functional, useful way, were able to control a |
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prosthetic or a robotic arm simply by thinking about the |
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movement of their own paralysed hand. |
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And they did that using the investigational BrainGate neural interface |
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system. |
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So they thought about using their own arm and hand |
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as though they were reaching out themselves with their own |
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limb. |
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And the robotic arm moved much the way their own |
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arm would have moved. |
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One of the longstanding questions not only in neuroscience but |
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in neuro rehabilitation, is whether the cells in the motor |
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cortex and other parts of the brain, whether they continue |
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to function the same way years after that original injury. |
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It is possible for people to use their thoughts to |
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control devices, either a computer or a robotic arm. |
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The way that happens is that we implant a tiny |
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sensor just about the size of a baby aspirin just |
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into the surface of the brain, and that sensor pick |
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up the electrical impulses from a bunch of neurones. |
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And each of those neurones are like radio broadcast towers |
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putting out impulses. |
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And when they get to the outside, the computer translated |
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converts the pattern of pulses into something that is a |
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command. |
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One of our participants was able to do something that |
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when all of a sort for the first time gave |
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us all pause. |
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She reached out with the robotic arm. |
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She thought about the use of her own hand. |
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She picked up that thermos of coffee, brought it close |
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to her, tilted it towards herself, and sipped coffee from |
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a straw. |
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That was the first time in nearly 15 years that |
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she had picked up anything and been able to drink |
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from it solely of her own volition. |
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There was a moment of true joy, true happiness. |
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I mean, it was beyond the fact that it was |
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an accomplishment. |
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I think an important advance in the entire field. |
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So I want to say that because actually that work |
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has, as we'll go into it next week, based on |
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the foundation of recording from these individual nerve cells or |
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small groups of them, in this case, maybe 50 or |
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100 nerve cells from the motor cortex. |
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And because we know what those individual nerve cells are |
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doing, and because we can record them simultaneously with these |
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kinds of devices, we can infer what the signal is |
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that she was trying to send her now arms at. |
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And now she's now disconnected from because she has paraplegia. |
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And because we were able to look at those individual |
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nerve cells, we can interpret that signal in ways that |
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is able to involve a prosthetic limb. |
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Now, when we when that device came out into the |
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market about 15 years ago, it seemed like a game |
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changer move from one electrode to 100 electrodes. |
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Well, recently and this is work from Nick Steinmetz and |
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colleagues from just across the road here. |
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We've developed new devices that can actually record from thousands |
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of neurones. |
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At the same time. |
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These are sometimes called neuro pixel devices. |
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We use these routinely. |
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Most people, many people use they'll now use these routinely. |
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We can record from multiple brain areas. |
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Sometimes the individual nerve cells, in each case a groups |
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of them within each of these brain areas. |
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And I don't want you to try and understand what's |
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on this line in terms of signals and measuring. |
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But the point is that we can start to interpret |
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how individual nerve cells across the brain are working together |
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to make cognitive decisions in these small animals lives which |
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share some of our brain capacity. |
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The other technique that you'll be exposed to over the |
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next few weeks is called calcium imaging. |
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I won't again, I won't take you through this in |
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any great detail. |
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It relies on the fact that every time an action |
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potentially is produced, I've talked to you about how sodium |
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ions come flexing into the cell. |
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There's also a little thing called calcium line to become |
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flexing in the cell. |
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And by designing particular molecules to sense the presence of |
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those calcium lines and make line signals dependent on how |
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many calcium lines are present, we can actually engage with |
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light the internal activity of so many cells at once. |
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We make injections or use animals of being transgenic engineered |
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to express these little proteins in many cells in the |
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cortex. |
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And we can use funky little microscopes or very large |
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ones, actually very expensive ones, to try and image the |
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activity of those cells in the brain without, in this |
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case, electrodes rather, using light to record the activity of |
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these nerve cells. |
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And this particular technique has a visual advantage with electrical |
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recordings. |
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We can't work out which cell we were recording from. |
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We know it was a single cell, but we don't |
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know which side it was. |
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But with calcium imaging, with imaging the brain, we actually |
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know which cell produced the activity. |
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We can take the brain down the animal after the |
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experiment, having killed the animal and then remove the brain. |
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And then we can process the brain tissue in particular |
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ways that allows us to look at the anatomical structure |
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of that brain circuit so we can take this functional |
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activity is activity recorded in, say, a hundred neurones in |
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a particular part of the brain and relate it to |
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the structural connections between those neurones and between those neurones |
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and the rest of the brain is not to bring |
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together. |
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Finally, how does individual nerve cells work together in a |
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circuit to provide cognitive function? |
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So that's why I'm interested in studying animals, because I |
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think that it's only by looking at the real structure, |
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the size structure of new activity in these circuits that |
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we'll understand the structure of cognition. |
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Now, I think they might disagree and say that animals |
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don't have interesting enough cognitive functions to allow us to |
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make much inference about humans. |
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But I hope that there will be some intersection between |
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those two things where we can actually find some cognitive |
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function in animals that we find interesting as humans, and |
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where we can understand the neural circuits that actually allow |
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that cognitive function. |
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So that's the span of the different techniques that we |
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might come across in this course. |
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The next election will be about how we can apply |
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some of these to, for example, rehabilitation. |
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And then after that, from next week onward, movies are |
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about specific systems, specific pathways for the brain. |
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We better wrap it up there as as was last |
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week, and you lead by this talk as well so |
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we can. |
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Thanks, everyone. |
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During. |
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Hi. |
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Hi. |
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Yeah. |
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Yeah, I know. |
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I worked that out this morning. |
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You think? |
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Yes, I'll do that. |
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Thanks for reminding me. |
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Like mom and. |
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Dad. |
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Oh, fantastic. |
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Love to see that. |
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Yes. |
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Good. |
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All right, well, I'll send those things to you today. |
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Anything else? |
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Not at the moment, I think. |
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Thanks. |
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I know at the amount of money. |
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Tucker Carlson get. |
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At the end of last week, they spoke briefly and |
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say how he's doing. |
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Yeah, I just want to know that we know from. |
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I can't blame the people. |
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Who are involved in the rescue issue. |
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In 1945. |
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Clinical Psychology. |
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I think having different people on the floor. |
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If you if you get. |
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I don't get the story. |
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I didn't. |
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I didn't. |
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Pretty promptly. |
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It's getting better. |
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I found last week because I'm given a lecture and |
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I live next to my two or three years. |
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Pacing was completely wrong. |
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Yeah, I know that. |
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She goes. |
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Is getting inadequate lecture fees? |
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Yes. |
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Down here. |
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Yeah. |
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I knew about luck. |
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Because the natural instinct is to end up that way. |
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Yeah. |
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Last week Hobson did it, and it's a week away |
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from doing it. |
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That's right. |
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There's no reason show will be the best. |
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But. |
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Oh, come into right now. |
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He's like, friend. |
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We think. |
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That there. |
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41. |
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Former. |
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Better. |
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It's been more than a game. |
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She. |
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Can. |
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But. |
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You. |
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Life. |
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Yeah. |
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So that was the thing that I think everybody. |
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That. |
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Great. |
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And you? |
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I want to point out. |
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Thank. |
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I didn't. |
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So. |
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So. |
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Okay. |