JOE LOCKHART, FORMER CLINTON WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: All out and he said I fired him because I wanted to stop the Russia investigation, because I think the Russia investigation is a witch- hunt. There may be in some narrow, legal eagle place where that is an obstruction of justice. To the rest of us, it is the obstruction of justice on the face of it.</s>KEN STARR, LEAD INDEPENDENT COUNSEL IN THE INVESTIGATION OF PRESIDENT CLINTON: But he didn't shut down the investigation. That's one of the key things. He could have said this investigation --</s>LOCKHART: He then tried to remove and fired his Attorney General. What else do you need to see that is obstruction? What else? What else do you want to see as a prosecutor here?</s>STARR: You need to see action that actually results in the investigation not being able to be carried forward. If Bill Clinton had fired Louie Freeh, would you have stood up and said he has every right to do that?</s>STARR: I hope I would have.</s>LOCKHART: I doubt you would have.</s>STARR: I have a very view of Presidential power. Article 2 gives the President authority over the executive branch, so President Trump could, in fact, have said, I want this investigation to stop. Period, full stop. Then that to me does raise an issue of potential obstruction.</s>ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST: A lot to discuss there and that was just a fraction of that conversation. I'll be joined live by former Watergate prosecutor next.
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